"If you know neither the enemy nor yourself, you will succumb in every battle" -Sun Tzu
My post about Hillary Clinton raised many questions about the future of the Democratic Party, and it’s possible 2008 presidential candidate choice.
Lamtemp writes: “… His (Bush) divisive right wing rhetoric mobilized conservative Christians who usually don't vote to get up and go to the polls. He energized his base. That is what we need.”
I disagree. Conservative Christians do historically vote. The Christian group that Bush was successful with was indeed a swing group. That swing group was the Latin and moderate Catholics.
From 2000 to 2004 he increased his share of the Latino vote by 11 percent. In the 2004 election, George Bush was also able to break the record as the Republican presidential candidate to receive the most Latino votes ever. He broke Regan’s record of 37% by eight percentage points.
He did this in part by bringing up the issue of gay marriage. He used “sin” to talk to undecided Latino voters. Essentially, Bush was able to steal away these possible swing voters who have historically voted Independent or Democratic.
On the subject of stealing votes:
Lametemp also wrote: “Correct me if I am wrong but Bush was re-elected, right?”
I have honestly not done enough study to tell you accurately whether Bush was or was not fairly re-elected. However, Robert Kennedy Jr. has been busy looking at just that issue and has put his research together in a four-page article.
I would really suggest that you all take the time to read this very well written article. It appeared a short time ago in Rolling Stone magazine. It got very little public attention, and I think that is a real tragedy.
For those of you too busy to wade through a four-page piece, here is Kennedy on MSNBC in an exchange with Tucker “Dingleberry” Carlson.
The most telling section of this clip is in the last 60 seconds.
posted by Peter Matthes @ 12:17 AM
4 Comments:
Republicans are counting on the Latin vote. When Bush came to Orlando last month to talk about social security he went to the Puerto Rican Society building!
Plus, they love the fact that Jeb is married to a hispanic lady, i'm sure he will run in the election after next.
Funny i just read an article about jeb and his chances of making the election.
the general idea was not, as his connection to the bush dynasty has become more of a black mark against him than was previously thought. even if he did only run in the election following the next.
that and the susposition that americans are wary of political dynasties.
the journo suggested that all the dems had to do to swing the vote in their favour was to catch all three bushes in the same kodak moment.
Some ministers really piss me off. Some days, I wish God would smite them and get it over with.
I remember sitting restlessly in church in the mid to late nineties, and the minister told his churchgoers to get out of the stock market. He felt it had come too far too fast. In fact, he was dead wrong. It had only begun to rise. I wonder how many of them cursed him secretly months after that sermon.
At the "Lord hear out prayer" bit I wanted to say out loud. "Lord ... we pray for people who take financial advice from their priest and moral advice from their stock broker." ... "Lord hear out ... huh?"
Ministers should stick to moral advice. When it comes to politics and finance they know DICK.
I certainly agree that Democrats should stick to their core issues. - Healthcare, labor rights, education, the environment, human rights, etc.
I wish that Kerry had created a web site where people could see how much tax they pay under the Bush plan. Just like a tax booklet. It would let you view every level of personal income and see for yourself.
I agree that we basically agree.
To answer your question ... I like Hillary ... but not as our President. I do think she unifies the Right, but I also think there are many left wing people who are not fond of her. Just look through the comments from that post. Most are from left wingers who are not so hot on her as a candidate. I am not fond of Kerry either. Gore ... Yes ... Edwards ... Yes ... Hugh Hefner ... Yes ... George Clooney ... Yes ... My Cat ... Yes. (She's a girl)
One final thing … I like when newscasters report on Latino issues. Even a southern reporter will have her twang until she gets to the word “Latino”. All of a sudden that word come out of her mouth like she was raised in PR. Then, she goes right back to her regular accent.
There are a lot of people (Mainly Republican) who are scared of the expansion of the Spanish speaking population in this country. I have received several short films that border on hate films towards Spanish speaking leaders from my right-wing family members.
I have to run. I am printing up “Viva Gore” buttons today.
YouTube also has Colberts interview w/Robert Kennedy on this subject.
Excellent post m'dear..thanks :)
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